Had this discussion recently with some Wolfpack friends around how you define the value of the money and time you invest in Wolfpack football. And money includes not just tickets, but tailgate costs as well. I know we spend a fair amount to put on a quality tailgate with good food and drink each week and all the equipment that goes along with that.

Specifically, I’m sure we all place a great deal of value on the social aspects of going to Wolfpack football games. The time spent with family and friends and the memories made are often markers in our lives. And when your program hasn’t won a conference title in 43 years you clearly have to make other aspects of the experience your focus.

But how much do people value the actual football and success of the program? What would it take before you opted against buying tickets? The stadium continues to be mostly full in recent times, so clearly that point has not been reached for most. But just as a discussion topic, curious as to what this equation looks like for different people.

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Watch the top of the football and specifically look for the white on the ball rotating out of his hands (the ball moving).

It's very clearly moving before the knee hits and should have been a touchback, our ball at the 20.

Impossible to know how it would have effected the game, but what a massive difference maker both in terms of points and momentum going into the half.

4th least explosive in the run game

6th least explosive in the pass game

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considering our struggles last year running the ball, DD has to take a long look at his offensive staff this offseason

Shout out to Jack for his play ...he left it all on the field today and I believe he will win us a few games this year..

Well I guess that their crappie records won't affect me as much- trading the best player for almost nothing.

Swim Meet against UK at 5:00 in Casey Aquatic Center.
Women’s Volleyball against UNC at 7:00 in Reynolds.

Embarrassing tough guy persona that fights like Jane!

Scouting video: NC State commit Kyron Jones​

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Am i reading this wrong or is Carolina getting two bye weeks

Thursday’s game:
Virginia at Georgia Tech (three points)

Saturday’s games:
Syracuse at Clemson (three points), 31-13
Duke at Miami (Fla.) (three points)
Boston College at Wake Forest (three points)
Pittsburgh at Louisville (three points)

National games of the week:
No. 9 UCLA at No. 10 Oregon (three points)
No. 20 Texas at No. 11 Oklahoma State (three points)
No. 17 Kansas State at No. 8 Texas Christian (three points)

Tie-breaker is the score of Syracuse and Clemson.

Sophomore standout Ian Coleman grew up NC State fan​

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Charlotte Christian junior wide receiver Micah Gilbert has a pretty good offer list, but NC State is not a part of it, at least not yet. The Wolfpack tried in vain to get his older brother Mark Gilbert, a cornerback from Fayetteville Terry Sanford, but got beat out by Duke (one of the rare times that happened).

Without seeing Gilbert play, he was injured last year when I saw Charlotte Christian, I didn't know what he brought to the table. What I saw Friday night was someone who is going to be a big-bodied clutch possession receiver. He didn't always go against Charlotte Providence Day cornerback Chris Peal, but they did matchup a lot. Gilbert finished with 11 catches for 183 yards and three touchdowns.

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Scouting video: NC State commit Tamarcus Cooley​

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Any word on game time for the UNC game on the day after Thanksgiving?

Seems some recruits do take notice of fan engagement at the games. Interesting comment / observation by Keith Sampson Jr that was mentioned in a Tweet by another big FSU recruit regarding fans leaving early during the Clemson game last week.

Keith Sampson Jr

We had five people with 18 points last week — greenstonewall, assist, LVPack, paceast and cornelius the greater — and three picked Syracuse correctly. Congrats to LVPack for picking the closest score.

HAWBR: 139
paceast: 136
ncrebel574: 136
WolfGators: 133
Splashwolf: 133
packpride92: 133
packinga: 133
LVPack: 133
legend83: 133
jtownwolf: 133
jpacker: 133
itpacker: 133
ASKA: 133
ACR74: 133
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larrystate: 131
moranskins: 130
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Rockville_Wolf: 126
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PlayersRetreat: 124
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rewing91: 121
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Lawwuf: 121
Jacey Zembal: 121
first base: 121
AlanStuart: 121
One putt: 120
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WPWE: 118
PackinFL: 118
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Hawkeye: 112
dawylie: 112
greenstonewall: 110
greath: 110
shua3052: 109
C_Lupus: 107
packfan88: 105
jackets27870: 105
BugZy100: 103
cornelius the greater: 101
Syd64: 100
nodflow: 100
blarabee: 86
awswolf: 84
onlyarumor: 72
jholland2912: 64
iNCSUranceGuy:58
How bout th Pack: 56
PACKed House: 49
BIG D-98: 43
RedPowerPack: 30
jimboleo: 24
Pawolf85: 23
wolfpack kc: 17
WolfLink: 17
Harnett Pack: 17
CAMPBUD: 14

Scouting video: NC State senior target Chris Peal​

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The loss to Syracuse knocks the Wolfpack projection from the Orange Bowl down to minor bowl status. Of course, these are subject to change, and will get more accurate as the season progresses.

ESPN:
Bonagura: Holiday Bowl, NC State vs Oregon
Schlabach: Duke's Mayo Bowl, NC State vs Purdue

CBS Sports: Duke's Mayo Bowl, NC State vs Maryland

247 Sports: Duke's Mayo Bowl, NC State vs Notre Dame

It looks like a competitive year in the ACC:
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Do we see him Saturday?
What are his supposed strengths ?
I assume d will key on Thayer throwing ?